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TreeHugger Dev: Beck on the Apollo Alliance: "Talk Me Out of the Crazy Tree"

  • The Author · 4 months ago

    Don't give Glenn Beck anymore face time than he already gets. We've got enough uninformed people with far-reaching media platforms as it is. The guy is the epitome of American ignorance and suspension of disbelief. He belongs in a freaking psyche ward instead of a 'news' organization.



    http://www.sincerelysustainable.com

  • crhilton · 4 months ago

    Fox verse Google. Man I wanna see that battle.

  • Nick · 4 months ago

    Absolute nonsense coming from FoxNews as usual, sadly, the uninformed, the gullible, and the right wing fools on this country will believe every word coming from this d-bag.

  • Balanced American · 4 months ago

    August 1, 2009



    I think Beck is right. I travel through all 50 American States and I see no sign of pollution, weather change, and other catastrophies that Gore, Prince Charles, and others scare us about.



    It is obvious that there is a lot of money to be made by the environmentalists through their opocaliptic statements and scare tactics.



    Beck is right!



    A balanced American.

  • Jessica · 4 months ago

    Well, "Balanced American," you haven't been to my neck of the woods. Come down to Long Beach, CA in the summertime and look at our air. Come down after a winter rainstorm and look at the urban flotsam on the beaches. There's olenty to clean up, if you feel like helping out.

  • John · 4 months ago

    "It takes a lot of our day just to explain this to you".



    Why yes Glenn, I bet it did, seeing as you somehow managed to take an organization that stands for the working man and sustainability and somehow warp that into some a club for wicked men who meet every second Wednesday to talk about destroying the American way of life (BBQ, McMansions, and SUVS) while feasting on newborn babies.

  • Nick · 4 months ago

    @"Balanced American"



    "no sign of pollution, weather change, and other catastrophies"



    Good lord, what an absurd comment - wow!

    No sign of pollution? You must have been smoking something, every major metropolitan spot in the US is exceptionally polluted, you can't see the sun under the LA smog most of the year. You probably overlook the severe drought in the entire Southwest, now even South East, water reservoirs are at historical lows and the list goes on..



    As to the weather change, you just don't get it, climate change related natural events do not happen from one day to another, it takes decades of steady increase. In other words, what you're saying is "It's nice out today! That mean there's no climate change!" LOL what an idiotic idea; this is not at all how it happens. The weather is already more extreme all over Europe and the US gets drier and drier every year.



    But even with all that, you watched Beck and decided that he was right, that climate change and pollution are nonexistent, my god, you need help.

  • Spence · 4 months ago

    "opocaliptic".

    Best. Spelling. Mistake. Ever!

  • Andrew · 4 months ago

    Though I agree with many of the causes under this organization's umbrella, I disagree with containing them within one organization.



    Having a labor/race/environmental organization means that someone can attack your group, by only attacking one of the things you cover, and people need to support all of those things to support you.



    Imagine the, no smoking in schools/preventative medicine/killing puppies, organization. I can't imagine anyone not supporting any of the causes, but i also can't imagine anyone supporting that group.



    I hate to say it, but in this one isolated instance, I actually agree with Glen Beck, that this group shouldn't exist.

  • db · 4 months ago
    "Jones, who also started Green for All, is a hero to many, and most who here him speak come away fired up to create change."


    The same can be said about the late Rev. Jim Jones (no relation, though another one-time prominent Democrat).



    Notably, you don't dispute the fact that Van Jones is a self-admitted communist and a radical black nationalist. You can't, because it is a fact. No doubt he is considered "a hero" by some, but guess to what sort of people?



    "The President clearly saw Jones' leadership skills and brought him into the White House as the Green Jobs Czar."


    Either that, or it's just another in a long list of the Obama administration's patronage appointments. Of course Obama granted him the unelected title of "czar" -- you don't actually think someone with Jones' background could ever withstand congressional scrutiny, do you? And being a "czar" has the added benefit of not requiring any public accountability. In Jones' case, that's key.



    "But to Beck, Jones is a villain because he advocates for clean energy jobs that put people back to work."


    No, clearly to Beck, Jones is a villain because he is a radical and a Marxist. If we are to judge President Obama by the sort of people he surrounds himself with, this is another case which reflects very poorly.



    "One important part was the "down-payment" of more than $100 million dollars for green-collar job creation."


    Well, insofar as this policy has provided Van Jones with lucrative employment, it is a resounding success. Other than that ...

  • SkeptikSnarf · 4 months ago

    anything glenn beck thinks is bad for america is actually good.



    btw - dont be supprised to see more articles like this on treehugger about the right wind propaganda organization that thinks they are a news network

  • Anonymous · 4 months ago

    I want to know what exactly is Glen Becks motivation. Is he doing this because he actually believe himself, or, does he have a conservative agenda?

  • Devin · 4 months ago

    Its always been amazing how you can get educated people that buy into this crap. Global warming is a great money making opportunity even if it is a total sham but that is why AL Gore has done so well yes we should take care of our planet but give me a break

  • Colin W. · 4 months ago

    The king of the straw man argument is in no danger of losing his crown.

  • CB · 4 months ago

    @Andrew:



    Apollo Alliance is just a tiny policy group. I interned for them some yers ago, and they were literally three employees, with some scattered associates across the country to contributed data and to discussion. They're not an umbrella group for a bunch of parties (labor, enviro, etc), they're really just a handful of people thinking up policy, and presenting ideas in speeches and papers. At most, they facilitate meeting and discussion wbetweent he different parties. They're like the party (real part) host, who invites people and introduces them, hoping they hit it off like he/she imagined.

  • Mark · 4 months ago

    I think Beck is right. These organizations do not need to be joined together. This country fought against communism and fascism (which are one in the same, socialism, and this fight continues, i.e. war on terror) and won/fighting. During that time we became the wealthiest and most admired nation on earth. Now through laziness we have let socialist (i.e. communist/fascist) come into the most powerful positions in our government and they bring there ideals of social justice. This social justice for some is racial justice, Obama. For others it is environmental justice, Van Jones, through some of his ideas lean towards racial justice. So the question is why is these groups under one organization? Why are they all collaborating to create policies for the government? These groups have nothing in common. It seems to me they have gathered together for social justice against a foe that has done little to nothing to them. Please comment on this. Mark

  • John R · 4 months ago

    The sinister Green actions that the government are involved with, are the dangerous positions. Environmentally friendly solutions are great, but the Government using strong arm tactics to implement them are not. The Constitution grants authority for Government to implement changes through amendments, the safety net is that all the States have a voice in the establishment of new legislation this means that a single branch of Government can't force change (CHANGE) that the rest of this country doesn't want. The Legislature needs to implement things, (Health Care, Environmental policies, Business regulation and private corporation takeovers using the right steps and change the Constitution, then "We The People" will be better represented.

  • The Author · 4 months ago

    NEWSFLASH!



    People are too stupid or too greedy to change enough to make a significant difference. If it were up to the free-market nd society (which it has been), we'd be driving ourselves even faster over the cliff. Humans are so short-sighted that they'd rather indulge in the fleeting pleasures of today than have a planet and economy that will support them and their children tomorrow.



    Sorry, until the US and the rest of the world collectively shows some more intelligence and effort towards environmental responsibility, it will be up to the government to regulate it.

  • Robert C · 4 months ago

    Thank God for Beck and others like him. Without his investigations and reporting to the masses, we would not know the extent of acorn, apollo and other well funded leftist organizations that are the root cause of deceptive elections, fallacious science studies and the true goals of the disingenuous left. All we see on this website are untrue horrors of climate change and pollution. While the climate has been changing since the dawn of time and NO BENCHMARK has ever been factually tied to man's activity, fighting pollution is not a bad thing. It is just stupid how ignorant green folks go about the process. Using Blogs and computers, which use power which in turn reduce their arguments to ash is laughable. I might respect some of you leftists if you lived in a tent and WALKED to the corner in your city and stood on a soap box to complain. But no, you like Al Gore, fly the world to spew your lies to tell the rest of us who work and pay taxes how You want US to live. Excuse me while I vomit.

  • Robert C · 4 months ago

    Thank God for Beck and others like him. Without his investigations and reporting to the masses, we would not know the extent of acorn, apollo and other well funded leftist organizations that are the root cause of deceptive elections, fallacious science studies and the true goals of the disingenuous left. All we see on this website are untrue horrors of climate change and pollution. While the climate has been changing since the dawn of time and NO BENCHMARK has ever been factually tied to man's activity, fighting pollution is not a bad thing. It is just stupid how ignorant green folks go about the process. Using Blogs and computers, which use power which in turn reduce their arguments to ash is laughable. I might respect some of you leftists if you lived in a tent and WALKED to the corner in your city and stood on a soap box to complain. But no, you like Al Gore, fly the world to spew your lies to tell the rest of us who work and pay taxes how You want US to live. Excuse me while I vomit.

  • Robert C. · 4 months ago

    Thank God for Beck and the TRUTH. I for one tire of the phony self serving claims of the greens. As Al Gore travels the world and burns more carbon fuel in a year then I will ever burn in a lifetime, he rants on how I should live my life. All the while making an Obscene profits on lies and scare tactics. And the Disingenuous and uninformed lemmings here snap to attention. From stacking elections and fraudulent voter registration to false and untrue claims of climate disaster (the climate has been ever changing on earth since there was a climate, and there is NO PROOF that it is man made just because you say it is), this Apollo Group, and the causes behind it, need to Identified as the deceptive organizations that they truly are. The arrogance of folks who think that man changes the climate, and not the Sun or the fluctuating magnetic field, is laughable. Especially as you all post here on toxic filled computers using power generated by utilities and not your spouse turning the crank by hand of your own home build "green" generator would be comical if it wasn't so pathetic.

  • Dave D · 4 months ago

    @ "Theauthor":



    "Sorry, until the US and the rest of the world collectively shows some more intelligence and effort towards environmental responsibility, it will be up to the government to regulate it."





    And there we have, for all to see, the prevailing attitude of enviro-fascism.



    Any questions?

  • Ted · 4 months ago

    Actually, free markets don't really exist in the States. You have very powerful industrial and corporative interests throwing millions of dollars through lobbyists to try and influence the direction the government is going. Had this truly been a free market environment, I think we'd see a lot more green initiative than we see today.



    A lot of people throw around the epithets of fascism, socialism and communism without really understanding what each of these three political or economic systems are. If you start tying the three together (especially @Mark) you are displaying a profound misconception of what these three words actually mean and simply heft them at others for the emotion attached to them.



    Please, please, please calm down people. There is no leftist "conspiracy" to destroy America's economy through unprofitable environmentally minded choices. It just doesn't make sense. What would be the motive of these "leftist" conspiracies in destroying the world? You set up false strawmen who resemble idiotic supervillains from comic books and try to pin your fears upon it, when such a strawman doesn't exist.



    Rational debate about the methods used to bring about change in America's attitude towards environmental stewardship is good. Ridiculous name calling reminiscent of children fighting on the school playground is only self-destructive.

  • mike · 4 months ago

    @ Ted:



    "There is no leftist "conspiracy" to destroy America's economy through unprofitable environmentally minded choices."



    No? Then how do explain the fact that "green jobs czar" Van Jones IS AN ADMITTED COMMUNIST? That is not mere conjecture -- he has said it publicly, and yet, in spite of this, he is still appointed to a non-elected public position created especially for him by the Commander in Chief of the United States?



    Please explain that, if you can.



    "It just doesn't make sense. What would be the motive of these "leftist" conspiracies in destroying the world?"



    In the context of how the radical left has historically achieved power, it makes perfect sense. It's what they do. As Lenin said, “If You Want to Make an Omelet, You Must Be Willing to Break a Few Eggs.”



    Of course, most leftists don't imagine they are "destroying the world", as you put it. They imagine they are working in a noble cause, in this case, no less than "saving the Earth". That is because the great majority of leftists in the United States are what Lenin referred to as "useful idiots".



    The main point here is that "environmentalism" has become a pretext to achieve the usual socialist aims, which are to grant the state sweeping powers over the economy and political expression.



    "Rational debate about the methods used to bring about change in America's attitude towards environmental stewardship is good."



    The central conceits here are your assumptions that there is a debate, or that it is even necessary. It's not a debate -- it's a subterfuge.

  • Will · 4 months ago

    The ignorance in these posts is astounding...

    "global warming a sham" ... I suggest you actually read some science journals.

    "The sinister Green actions"... way to demonize it.

    "we have let socialist (i.e. communist/fascist) come into the most powerful positions in our government".. LOL You have no idea what the hell you are talking about but it sounds bad right?

    "NO BENCHMARK has ever been factually tied to man's activity".. you sure about that? or just anything you don't agree with? Excuse me while i call you a dumb ass.







  • mr_e · 4 months ago

    Wow, it looks like all the trolls and astroturfers are out in force on this one. Interestingly they only come out in force when Glenn Beck and Faux news are mentioned. It seems like the Right-wing is having a collective freak-out now that Obama is in power and the Democrats have finally got their sh*t together. After years of Bush and Cheney pushing the country into the abyss, it's a nice change.



    So there is an alliance on the Left to promote their own collective agenda. I'm shocked!...shocked I tell you! Nothing like that would ever happen on the part of the Right! I don't think the Apollo Alliance is surprising or conspiratorial. Look at the alliance of Right-wing groups and insurance companies trying to defeat the health care bill right now. Surprising? Hardly. I think the Right is just surprised that the Left is organized for the first time in a long while...it certainly took them long enough.



    As far as climate change and global chaotic weather goes, you can only push your head into the sand so long. No major scientific body disputes that climate change is happening--that's a pretty major consensus. Whether you're Left, Right or Center, please do your own research and come to your own conclusions. Don't allow *any* news outlet to tell you what your point of view should be.



    The freedom to say and think what you want comes at a cost...being responsible for your actions, your own community and your self-education as a democratic citizen. Being free doesn't mean you do whatever you please...that's childish anarchy...being free means taking responsibility for your own independent thoughts and actions. If you can't do that, you've forfeited your independent thought and freedom to a bunch of talking heads who are little more than corporate shills. It's a package deal--if someone tries to sell you freedom without any corresponding responsibility, chances are they're lying to you.



    And if you honestly believe that there is a "Liberal Media" out there that is trying to sabotage "The Truth", then perhaps America should bring back The Fairness Doctrine (google it) and call it a day. Cheers.

  • Zoa · 4 months ago

    @Andrew



    You have good points about the people that is part of this Apollo Alliance!



    I am by far on the right, I am a democrat (left). But what I'm seeing from our (left) people is attack, attack and attack. We just don't listen anymore. We learn from our critics like Mr. Beck. I don't like him, but I do get information from him like the people of this Apollo Alliance. I don't hear this stuff from MSNBC, CNN. But as Andrew put it, it's the questioning of the character of these people. Although the intentions of the programs are genuine, who's to say that their actions intentions are the same as ours?



    A responsible (left) that supports the Apollo Program will indeed question the character of the people in charge of the program. It's time us "left" start owning up to our part. We should listen and work with the "right" for the better good and vote for the better person that will represent, not take our country to an extreme social society.



    That my "left" friends, is a true American Democrat!

  • Southron · 4 months ago

    Beck has the crazies pegged to a tee. The carbon fraud must be stopped.

  • James · 4 months ago

    I must say, I feel outright schizoid about this topic. I am a physician, not a complete idiot. When you inoculate a petri dish and plop it into an incubator (analogous to our planet floating around in the solar system), you will see terrific growth, until that growth changes the conditions inside the petri dish. Then you get an entire change within that tiny ecosystem.

    Yet, what I see politically and economically is a huge financial gain for those in power. Them that has, gits, as my economics prof used to say. Yet 'getting' is a synonym for incentive, which is exactly what has created this country. I see tremendous impositions financially will be created by cap and trade, and I do not trust the entire Federal govt. (this administration or the last 2) worth a damn. State govt follows a close second.

    It seems everything is becoming so extreme. Our economy is tanking, yet we have a president who continues to impose additional financial burdens on small and large businesses, as well as individuals who are most likely to employ others. It makes no sense. We will not be able to do a damn thing about any global re-distribution of energy if we are simply trying to feed our children (in other words, I hardly blame India or China or any other country outside of Europe or America for begging off this issue).

    So, I understand where Glenn Beck is coming from, and I agree with much of what he says. I also am very concerned about preserving natural resources, cleaning up our skies and water. I just hate to see people using this issue to make huge profits.

    Ok, thanks for listening.

    Indecisive

  • Mark · 4 months ago

    @ mr_e



    I have to ask do you really think the policies of the Obama and Bush administrations are that much different? We have been heading down this trail (progressive movement) since Teddy Roosevelt came into office over a hundred years ago. With Bush we were heading towards socialism in steam train, with Obama we were heading towards it on the back of a rocket. The problem is the destination is the same, a big wall of reality that wont give way. Why is it that all progressives (both R and D) when trying to pass a bill love to conveniently forget history? Look at countries that have done these programs such as cash for clunkers, cap and trade, universal healthcare, socialism in general, and etc. Notice that they don't work and repeating them won't fix them. And mr_e i love your section on freedom, too bad you think its just the corporate world that does that. The corporate world doesn't make laws. They can influence them, but the final decision is by the politician. If the politician was really looking out for your rights do you think they would vote for some of these programs. Your freedom section sounds like a conservative talking. It is common sense that one is responsible for their actions, but i should not be responsible for someone else's. Im one for clean air, land and water and global warming is still out on if its happening. I was one of the first in my towns to catch on to it and i defended the theory for years i gave up because i didn't make sense when nothing changed beyond what is normal. I support businesses that create "green" products and as long as they don't try to push there thoughts on how i should live my life, i.e. lobbying, i support them. They are competing on the free market. Please comment. Mark

  • Mark · 4 months ago

    @ Ted



    Ted i would like you to define communism and fascism. You will probably come to the same answer, socialism, the thought of the collective first at the expense of individual rights.

    For your other section, i don't believe that there is a leftist "conspiracy", i believe that the politicians in washington (both R and D) are looking out for themselves and using there positions of power to further there agenda and more likely increase there cash flow. I think most who are called "liberal" or "enviro-fascist" really think this is the right way and what is good for us all. One most remember that one should not give up there freedom for the collective for freedom is sacred and once given up is hard to retrieve. I'll probably catch flak for that last sentence, trust me its not for emotion, its what's true. Look at communism and fascism (socialism in general) and notice it sometimes takes wars for the people to get there freedom/ rights back. I just want people to know that they shouldn't give up their rights for what some business person or politician says which sadly happens far to often. Please comment. Mark

  • Mark · 4 months ago

    @ will



    Will, these people are simply making there voice heard, you don't have to call people "dumb ass."

    And Will i was an global warming environmentalist until i started doing my own research. Watch the climatologist prediction presentations and watch the time line on the presentation. You will notice that the global temperatures don't change much until they start making predictions.

  • Mark · 4 months ago

    @ Zoa



    Zoa we are same team. You are a free thinking person (which is hard to find these days) and though we may not agree with everything at least you listen to both sides to get your answer. I have much respect for you.

  • mr_e · 4 months ago

    @ Mark



    I think some of my ambivalence got lost in translation. I'm definitely not conservative, nor do I believe that corporations--in the vast majority of cases--exercise the kind of freedom I was defining (which is from Sartre and philosophy, not political ideology). From Union Carbide and Bhopal, to Exxon and Alaska, to Enron and California, corporations are often part of the problem, not the solution. Similarly, the power and influence corporations have over democratic institutions and the media are part of the reason that real change is so hard to come by these days. I just don't like the way that "freedom" has been bandied about as a cure-all / scare-word over the last 10 years--the mere mention of it seems to turn people into unthinking zombies.



    Regarding Bush and Obama, I think they are different, though not as different as politicos would have us believe. American politics occupy a small sliver of the political spectrum, relative to global manifestations of Left and Right, or relative to what those terms meant in the early 20th century, where pretty much everything was on the table. Are B & O that different in terms of the narrow band of the political spectrum they occupy, or the degree of corporate influence, or many of their international policies? Not really. But I think Obama does show considerably more compassion and concern for the middle class and isn't a warmongering buffoon like Bush. I mean seriously...worse than Nixon? That's pretty bad, Republicans.



    I'm really neither absolutely Left or Right...I think they're outdated concepts. I've seen Socialism work in some cases and free markets work in others, depending on the situation or the country. Spanish Syndicalism and Japanese Corporatism can work in certain instances as well...it's a matter of using the right (left?) tool for the right job; in general, I'm a fan of what works. One shouldn't be blinded to alternatives just because of ideology.



    I'm definitely not a fan of Oligopolies, which is what we have in most North American industries today (3-4 very large players). That's a bad economic ecology that benefits no one and it's definitely not Adam Smith's version of a free market--it's a perversion of that. He was talking about producers and consumers haggling in the town square, not Walmart or Verizon.



    Hearing the terms "Socialism" and "Communism" bandied about the same careless way that "freedom" has been the last little while grates on me a lot. It's an abuse of language on a McCarthy-ian scale; Obama's reforms are Keynesian mixed-market reforms at best...the same kind of economic planning that provided good, steady growth from 1942-1972. Granted, it wasn't a perfect system, and it's implementation now under the Dems is sketchy at best, but I'd rather have the steady, consistent & sustainable growth of that era than the insane ponzi economics of the S&L crisis, the dot-com bust and the current financial morass. Blowing multi-billion dollar holes in your economy every 15 years or so is not the best way to run a country IMHO. But neither is massive deficit spending, either.



    I'm definitely green, but I also believe in technology and the power of social actors to create change. I'm not going to go live in the woods and never take a hot shower again, but I also don't believe there's a technological "magic bullet" that will fix all of our woes, either. That takes people, will and ideas as well.



    Peace.

  • Your Mom · 4 months ago

    You soft leftists will reap what you sow. You are useful idiots to the Marxists. Put down the bong and wake up people.

  • Mark · 4 months ago

    @ mr_e



    I love it how you quickly distanced yourself when i called what you said sounded conservative. I hope you know that not all conservatives are hate-mongers, or as you put it trolls and astrotrufers. I love it when liberals say there protests are genuine grass roots when they have to form themselves into organization such as Acorn or Apollo just to have them. Im not surprised you mentioned an evil oil company as your example of a bad corporations. I will agree with you that Enron did some pretty bad stuff to California, but you must remember that company is now bankrupt. They also broke contract laws with there customers by not providing the service they were being paid for. Sadly the political spectrum that you think B & O are part of is not as narrow as you think, its now really the norm, progressivism has infected every part of government.

    Socialism has not ever worked as well as free market economics. Ask China. That country has a serious problem now since they have let free market ways into the country its been so successful the government doesn't know what to do. The government still wants socialist control but they want to prosper which they have seen only free market can give them. Keynesian economy has ben around for some time really happening since FDR came into office and started the new deal, a program which didn't work. We are being led to to this same way of big socialist government again. Basic economics is always going to have peaks and troughs its normal as the changing of the season. Just let the market do its thing and get the government out of it.

  • mr_e · 4 months ago

    @ Mark



    An interesting and thought provoking discussion, Mark. You're obviously not a troll or an astroturfer ;) Civilized discourse is rare these days, especially online.



    I know not all conservatives are bad, I think the negative reaction is due to a saturation of Bush-Cheney, Fox News and the Neo-Cons, who tend to provoke a pretty strong reaction. I've voted for the Right as well as the Left in the past, but the current batch of Neo-Con ideologues are really reprehensible...so yes, I tend to put some distance between myself and them.



    I disagree that the political spectrum is very wide, although if you're talking exclusively about big government, then perhaps there are similarities. I was referring to the political spectrum outside of US which is pretty huge and ranges from near Communism (Cuba) to near Fascism (Singapore) and everything in between and sideways. There a are a lot of alternatives that don't even get airtime due to the two party system and the special interests that are involved. So a great many possible solutions fall by the wayside due to the insularity of the States relative to the rest of the world.



    I disagree that Socialism never works...China is running Communism, Socialism, Syndicalism and Capitalism in parallel right now (depending on where you're living) and doing just fine economically. Norway, Sweden and Finland are doing just fine as well, cranking out a consistent growth rate of 3-4% GDP every year. That's much better than Japan, where things have ranged from +2% to -8% or the US which has ranged from +3% to -3%. You might get taxed a lot, but they're consistent, you have to give them that.



    The Keynesian economic reforms of the 1930's and 1940's actually would have prevented the current fiscal crisis if laws governing banking hadn't been rolled back in the 1980 and 1990's. Many of those reforms were designed to prevent economic disasters like this one, but somehow people forgot about that. Many of the reforms coming about now are actually replacing laws the government pulled the plug on, like banking reform.

    Keynesian economics worked very well, actually; from 1945-1973 the annual growth rate was 3.33%, characterized by short, shallow recessions and the largest increase in the standard of living for the greatest number of people, in history. That's pretty good in my book.



    Although we might call many of these systems (Norway, China, US) Socialist or Capitalist, they're all really mixed-market systems, integrating free market and state-controlled elements. What changes is the ratio between those elements and what industries in the economy they govern. I don't think there's an absolutely free market system anywhere, nor is there a purely state-controlled economy. We're dealing with mixed economies of varying sorts; the question becomes where, how and to what degree the government should be involved (at a minimum, merely providing a regulatory framework). The US has never been Socialist and probably never will be; the ratio of free-market, Oligopoly and state control in the mixed-market system is just changing to some other percentage, just as it did in the 1940's and 1950's.



    Oi, quite a rant...cheers.

  • RWE · 4 months ago

    Every time you turn over a rock something green is under it. Mold, fungus, progressives, socialists, community organizers, liberals.

    All are Green with a distinctive bad odor. Must be because they all grow in the dark, to avoid real scrutiny.

  • Gary · 4 months ago

    Mr_e sums it up pretty well. Some of the world's most advanced economies are actually mixed, and this is nothing more than fearmongering driven by xenophobia.



    It's a classic case of divide and conquer. Present misinformation, no need to cite real examples to allow people to speak for themselves. The average person on either side is apt to believe their most trusted information sources. In a lot of cases, angry and frustrated people are turning to the neo-conservative talking heads, who themselves are the very elites they claim to hate. My wife works in media, and you can trust that both of us have seen people on both sides having lunch together or socializing at parties. They are one in the same, but the average person doesn't realize this. The television heads and newspaper editors are the enlightened; the rest of us are either their pawns or the unwashed masses without a clue. All of this back and forth is funny to them, as they continue to rake in millions at our expense.



    On the issue of global warming, well that's a tough one that will only be exploited by both sides for economic gain. Real solutions for real problems are not part of the equation as far as the media and governments are concerned. It's all very saddening.

  • oh my · 4 months ago

    Seems like one ridiculous voice needs to be shut up. Funny how the left is always "right" and only have our best interest in mind. Ahh and conspiracy theories only happen by groups on the "right". I'm so happy i have so many educated folks to help me through my life. Though the author of this article should review it before posting it. Please continue to show everyone how to think! Another thing why do all you on the left worry so much about ONE network that has discussions not leaning your way??? Does Everyone really have to follow Your way???

  • Jose · 4 months ago

    Obama continues to surround himself with socialists and communists to his own peril. His actions are simply crazy. He thinks he has a limitless resource of good will. He does NOT and he has is already shrinking. His approval numbers are dropping like a rock after only 6 months. He is turning out to be an incompetent fool.



    I am a moderate and could support some of these efforts he has to wean us off of imported oil and help us save some of that $700 billion annual deficit by using windpower and natural gas. But he needs to manage his team and immediately stop bringing in communists and socialists and unions and Acorn community organizing incompetents to spend trillions of our tax dollars driving us to bankruptcy. He is going to really pissing people off. He is going to get IMPEACHED once his incompetence is added to a reversal in the economic situation that is pending.

  • pete · 4 months ago

    I like how liberals always talk about "social justice" when they want conservatives to pay more taxes, give more for the disadvantaged, dig deeper to support their causes; but ask them just once to promote the conservative ethic of hard work, generosity, or moral values, and suddenly they are right wing angry mobs waving swastikas. Mention the word "equality" and they come up with all kinds of meanings except one that includes the hard workng tax paying majority of this fine nation. The "baby boom" generation has been carrying this country on its back for the last 45-50 years. They're the ones who have been working while freeloaders have time to bus to rallies, anti-this and anti-that demonstrations. I've never seen any of them bus into any kind of pro-something rally yet. Now the time has come that the worker bees are reaching retirement age, and they have the seniority in their companies to take a day off now and again to make their political voice heard. This country is in for a minimum of 25 years of the workers speaking out. I think that is one reason obama is pushing so hard to have some kind of "end of life" counseling included in his health care plan, and if he can't get it included, the "public option" will be the fall back plan. We supposedly have "Government, for the people, of the people and by the people", but this health plan will be "Health care for the people, of the people, and run by the government" and that scares the hell out of me. I'd rather have my insurance guy down the steet when I can visit him than in DC when I may see his face, but not even know he's the guy who denied my wife the meds that would have given her a few more years.

    As to the power thing, I had a friend who worked installing windmills and solar panels. He worked on them on and off for about 12 years. Every time, once the equipment was up and running, the companies only kept about 1.2% of the people to do routine maintenance. Once the house is built, we don't need all the framers, carpenters, concrete men, glazers, roofers, etc. any longer. Just one handyman who we can pay minimum wage to keep the yard clean and patch anything that should need work over the next 50 years.

    Liberal society. You asked for it, you got it! And it don't run anywhere near as good as a Toyota!

  • Cracked World · 4 months ago

    You think this organization is for a sustainable economy?



    There is NOTHING sustainable about Omaba's economy!



    The Cap and Tax program he touts won't do jack to stop pollution because it doesn't address the two biggest polluters in the world today, China and India,they don't give a damn about pollution. So while we are all banging our heads against the wall to fight pollution they continue on their same path of creating even more.



    The fact that Obama has done nothing to defend himself against these statements tells me that they are true and indefensible.



    Beck and others like him are proving that Obama is NOT transparent like he said he was going to be.



    Do not get me wrong neither was Bush. I didn't much care for him either. But Obama is no better.



    All these civil groups he wants to involve our youth in is very much akin to that which Adolf Hitler did with his Hitler youth corps. in the 1930s



    The Apollo Alliance is just another political arm of the president. The connections Beck has made repeatedly are indisputable, these people are all getting rich from the presidents agenda.



    Another thing you obviously haven't taken the time to research is that Beck slammed Bush in the same way. He's more on your side than you know.

  • dave · 4 months ago

    The Apollo Alliance is the Epitome of the Special Interest Groups that have descended on Washington like locusts.

    Our republic is and future being destroyed by organizations such as the Apollo Alliance.



    The organization talks about “a growing public demand and push for green jobs.” So explain how we need green jobs if there is no definition and no one can explain what it is? How can there be demand for what is not real or defined? Here is what is real: adding Billions of Dollars in Debt to our nations Red Ink. Thank you for contributing to our nations demise Apollo Alliance.



    Green jobs like the lobbying you have done for cap and trade is based on a manufactured myths based on your ideological illusions. It’s like were all Children again. Here’s Mr. Rodgers (Apollo) “Lets make believe that we can make the world pristine and clean. If we all work together there will soon be no trace that humans were even here on Earth.”



    If you tree hugging loons are reading this post, you need to know this. You will soon be among the most hated members of society… People are catching on to your crazy little game. Time is running out for organizations like these and your damage WILL be undone.

  • Guest · 4 months ago

    People who make 'heroes' out of violent avowed communists are what is wrong with this country.



    Not to mention Jone's job is unconstitutional.



    The only place I know they had czars or tsars was in communist USSR.



    Obama's whole agenda is to destroy the country and he's almost done it in just 6 months... now we are ripe for the take over.



    We need the military to remove every last one of them in DC and start from scratch abiding by the constitution... but even they have been compromised!

  • Wes · 4 months ago

    Just wondering, before you call people uninformed have you investigated Van Jones?

  • Bill Henggeler · 4 months ago

    "But to Beck, Jones is a villain because he advocates for clean energy jobs that put people back to work."

    Nice, dishonest statement. Do your readers believe that drivel?

  • Wendy · 4 months ago

    Glenn Beck builds the perfect picture of what is really going on..most on this band wagon of communist corruption under the guise of many "sounds good " titles..but it is marxist communist..there are people in this oraganization that run this oraganization that are really not about green with comments like "down with capitalism"..this is a communist organization..period.

  • Anonymous · 4 months ago

    Beck was right.

    A civil discourse happened because civilians are not happy with the outcome made by politician. The terms ARE UNCLEAR.



    Nothing is clear of what Obama or congress are talking about. Even they themselves have no clear understanding of what they are presenting to citizens. Do you?



    You cannot change what 85% already preferred like healthcare to Obamacare. Change should be made for the 15% uninsured group.



    You cannot push your conviction into someone's throat no matter how good it sounds. The grim reality of change is heavy taxation to those already struggling for thier own changed - rise in cost of living. Congress or affliated group to congress like Apolloalliance is an organization that needs funding - a lot. Congress is not in the business of spending less.



    If you follow a little bit of its history, they always spent more that the previous admin. Big government relies heavily on fund from taxpayers.



    Going green is good if you provide people with choice. Once choice is removed people suffer. The reasons why America is historically better off is because we know how to harness energy cheaply but people's greed created an unstable social environment. It's about being responsible.

  • Medio · 4 months ago

    "Green" is the new "Red."

  • the cynic · 4 months ago

    Whenever I think of the Left and let my mind wander out beyond the lovey dovey peaceniks of my youth, I run right

    into the hardcore leftists of the "Peoples Park" in Berkely

    fame.

    When I think about these "crazies" (and no, they are NOT crazy, they are determined!) the mental picture I have is of

    Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge of Cambodia in the mid 1970's.

    And then I think of the Killing Fields. Does anyone remember that at all?

    And yes, you CAN make connections from the "smoking a joint in the park" crowd to the Chicago Democratic Convention riots

    to the Days of Rage to the SDS and Weather Undergound and their bombings in Michigan and Wisconsin and New York to the WTO riots of Seattle to the present administration.



    Welcome to the Year Zero.

  • l hall · 4 months ago

    If George Bush had CZARS who were perhaps a bit overly religious you guys on this web site would have been all over him , yet its OK for the President of the US has not one, not two but many self proclaimed COMMUNISTS advising him!!!



    Are you all nuts!



    I'm all for clean energy but I highly suspect anyone who's such a radical and who are terrorists, and self proclaimed communists and anarchists!



    You should be able to get enough support for clean energy without tainting you own group by claiming these communists are great people and should be advising the President!



    WAKE UP! Unless you actually believe all that communists crap. Then admit who you really are.

  • nursesuba · 4 months ago

    "But to Beck, Jones is a villain because he advocates for clean energy jobs that put people back to work."



    Funny, I watched it and that's not what I got out of it. I think Mr. Beck's problem with Mr. Jones is that he is a self proclaimed Communist with a criminal record who holds a prominent position in the Obama administration. I think most would have concerns about that, no matter their political leanings.



    I think it's important that you avoid misrepresenting someone while accusing them of trying to mislead others. It makes it appear like you are doing the exact same thing.

  • sma123 · 4 months ago

    I believe that the environment does need more consideration; however I also believe that turning America into a Socialist nation is not the way to get there... if you all believe that Obama cares about any of us or the environment, then you have a lot more faith than I do... And before I have anyone crying racist, I voted for him (regrettably). I think Beck is right and we should be asking a lot more questions about who is actually controlling our government right now. And since when are the labor unions environmentalists?

  • scienceguy288 · 4 months ago

    6 degrees off crazy. Even when he tries sounding logical with a nice little chart, he just sounds like a conspiratorial nutjob. And what is really sad is that people buy into this stuff because it "sounds" reasonable and he has "evidence."

  • Anonymous · 4 months ago

    LISTEN TO BECK, HE MIGHT TEACH YOU SOMETHING.



    ASK BOLD QUESTIONS

    FOLLOW THE TRUTH

    SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR



    HAVE YOU EVEN READ THE CONSTITUTION? I BET THE ANSWER IS NO. TAKE TIME TO READ YOUR CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS AND ANSWER HOW CAN WE KEEP THESE DOCUMENTS IN PLACE. I SAY NOT WITH GROUPS LIKE THE APOLLO ALLIANCE WRITING OUR BILLS AND RUNNING THE WHITE HOUSE

  • Thinker1 · 3 months ago

    Those of you with open minds might try doing what I did and really examine some of the people in the Apollo Alliance. Let's say Jeff Jones the head of the NYC office. He co-founded the Weather Underground. Sound familiar? If you google his associates like David Gilbert (in prison still) Mike Klonsky (avowed Communist) etc. etc.



    Do your homwork people.

  • Brady Hale · 3 months ago

    So here is my concern, Green jobs and sustainable energy sound great. I am all for re-energizing america. We have the ability to be the leader in innovation and efficeincy as much as we have been in consumerism and self absorbtion. We need changes too. I agree with all that. I do not agree with a self proclaimed communist radical organizer (as he, Mr. Van Jones openly admits himself) as the leader of that change and personal "Czar" to the president on the issue. Mine and your tax dollars are paying for a pursuasive radical speaker to advise us on our efficient change... Does that not make one ponder what happened to the Republic that this country was founded on? Also, I know another "powerful and moving speaker" who started with radical ideals and rose to power in the 1930's and 40's. Lets not foget how that all turned out. Nobody thought or knew what was going to happen when they handed the reigns over blindly to him and now he is luckily viewed as evil instead of successfully creating a godless world of power and social dominance, but only because we stopped him. We need to stop evil again before it rears it's full potential in this country.

  • B Dunning · 3 months ago

    You people are part of a larger thrust to run the USA down and take over the minds of the people standing for a Democratic way of life. Using the pretense of "green" and social justice, it all harks back to self centered persons wanting to get wealthy and have power.

  • Tider · 3 months ago

    Hey, Reds, ever hear of the Holocene Period? Yeah, didn't think so. Look it up. 15 degrees warmer. Humanity flourished, crops grew. Now check out the Ice Ages. Death, crop failure, disease. Now which one do you want? What makes the temps NOW so desirable? What makes you think we can affect it? What makes you think that we aren't supposed to be warming the planet in order to survive a possible coming ice age? If CO2 is so "bad", why tax it? Why not ban it? And why is it sooo good for plant life? Do you want plants to die from the lack of CO2? Haters. By the way, the reason UHHBAMA has all these Czars is because Congress would NEVER approve them under scrutiny. Bush had 8 Czars. BO has more than THIRTY!! These RACISTS HATE AMERICA!!! Vote out the DEMS and liberal Repugs in 2010!!! Conservatives need to be in Congress to stop the outrageous taxes and real racists in the govt. Democraps.

  • RW · 3 months ago

    Daniel Kessler's spell check was apparently not working while writing this article and his thinking was not up to par either.

  • Jimmy · 3 months ago

    Does anyone feel that it is important that Jones is a criminal and self proclaimed communist?

  • Zedekiah Hedwick · 3 months ago

    Having listen to both sides I come away with this quote from FA Hayek's The Constitution of Liberty:



    "“The common aim of all socialist movements was the nationalization of the 'means of production, distribution, and exchange,' so that all economic activity might be directed according to a comprehensive plan toward some ideal of social justice".



    Historically Fascistic leaders and movements have always started by first getting their foot in the door under the disguise of "social justice", doing everything for the common good.



    No one would disagree that we should help those who have less or are disadvantage but there is a danger in asking a government or government agency to mandate it or worse control it. In so doing we give up our liberty to some entity who may or may not have our interest in mind.



    Back to my original thought...Then using like-minded corporations and business they gain the "means of productions, distribution and exchange" . Sound familiar? Was it George Bush who took control of the financial institutions, the American auto industry? Was it Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan or Jimmy Cater forcing the most comprehensive set of reforms that our own congress can't read? No it was this administration. What about health care, freedom of speech? What is next? What are we willing to hand over to this government?



    Beck may come off as a loon at times but he is sounding more and more like the only sane voice among the Obamagasm that this country is experiencing. It's time to WAKE UP!

  • Adam Bulava · 3 months ago

    Beck's problem with a guy like Van Jones is the fact that he is Communist and an avowed radical. Do you really want a communist talking in the president's ear, and drafting legislation for our capitalist free market society. I don't.

  • Lynn Fisher · 3 months ago

    From the highly educated audience that bases our analysis on facts and not emotion:



    Myth: Today’s global warming is unprecedented.



    The Facts: The earth’s average temperature has increased over the last 30 years, and many point to this as evidence of a dangerous human-induced warming. But temperatures have risen and fallen many times before that.



    * The Medieval Warm Period (c. 1100-1450) and earlier periods were likely as warm or warmer than the present.



    * The earth was cooling as recently as the period from the 1940s to the 1970s, giving rise to fears of a coming ice age, until temperatures began to increase in the mid-1970s up through the present day.



    While it is likely that mankind’s activities have made a contribution to warming, current temperatures are within the range of natural variability.



    Related research:



    * Ben Lieberman, “Frequently Asked Questions About Global Warming,” March 21, 2007

    * Ben Lieberman, “Don’t Rush To Judgment on U.N.’s IPCC Global Warming Summary,” February 7, 2007

  • Joe Diffy · 3 months ago

    Mr. Kessler, you really are an idiot.

  • william stewart · 3 months ago

    van jones is a communist according to his past interviews. i also noticed most of the founders and directors of the apollo alliance have a link to alinsky and his commrades. kruschev was right, america would destroy itself from with in. going green would be a honorable goal if it were populated with honorable people. one should look at history. millions and millions have perished with the help of people like obama and emanuel. lucifer and alinsky must have sore arms from all of their back patting.

  • Richard · 3 months ago



    Can anyone tell me what a "green job" is exactly? I don't think anyone knows...

  • Michael · 3 months ago

    When I speak with most 'Greenies,' I feel like I am speaking with Fundamentalist Christians. Both groups appeal to highly disputed teaching, rely on what their authoritarian teachers are telling them, and resort to fear when questioned. Global Warming, like the Second Coming of Jesus, and like Chicken Little's falling sky, just 'aint' happening folks. All of these folks are snared by the archetypal need to see a disastrous end of the world and need a Savior to rescue them - Jesus and Al Gore fit the bill. I can see their psychological needs to have a cause, all fine and well. But for those of us who have seen their pseudo- 'facts' as just an apple that fell from the tree rather than a falling sky, we aren't buying into either religion. Call me an Agreenostic.

  • William Corgill · 3 months ago

    I looked up this because I heard about the Apollo Alliance. I wanted to find out for myself what this was all about, and while I see many groups and companies that are familiar, and that I am fine with, the one thing that sticks out more than anything is the term "social justice organizations". Social justice is nothing more than taking what one person has worked for and giving it to another, which is wrong. It is the very basis of socialism, and I as an American, a REAL American cannot support or agree with any "Alliance" that has those types of organizations involved in it.

  • j.a.m · 3 months ago

    The idea that "a coalition between [sic--why are moonbats illiterate?] green groups, labor and social justice organizations" is going to "transition" anybody's economy is simply laughable and indeed derision-worthy. In a free society, thanks be to Zeus, political pressure groups have nothing to do with "transitioning" the economy.



    You deliberately distort Beck's comments. He explicitly disavows the word conspiracy, saying it's all out in the open, though under-reported. And he explicitly acknowledges that there are some legitimate entities mixed up in this, not just extremists.



    Tellingly, you don't rebut anything of substance that he says.



    I commend Beck for alerting taxpayers to this grotesque misuse of their hard-earned money. Sunshine is the best disinfectant. Shame on the mainstream media for overlooking it.

  • Robert McGehee · 3 months ago

    I don't think Mr. Beck can be talked out of the "crazy tree" -- it's been his home for so long now.

  • scotchiedude · 3 months ago

    love this site! so much reasonable discourse, well, really just on the right--the left seems to resort to name calling and innuendo, not reasonable discourse. You evironmentalists need to back up your statements w/ evidence...re global warming, what is the temperatrure supposed to be? It has always been in flux, and prolly slways be. Many scientists say we have been cooling since 2000--who really knows? I just don't trust the "computer models" used to back man made glombal warming. There's no proof of MAN-MADE global warming--that' s the issue, guys, right? White guilt for f---ing up the planet??? We have made tremendous strides in cleaning up the planet--I am referring to Americans; 40 years ago Lake Erie was ON FIRE! One of the great lakes...Auto emmissions are way cleaner than in the 60's--just get behind a muscle car. I believe we are the model of a much cleaner envir't...not perfect, buch realatively clean. Go to Europe--Rome and Athens are filthy. India/China have one third of the population, and are incredibly polluted. China builds 2-3 coal plants per week--PER WEEK. But they are just trying to subsist. They are where we were in about 1910. Do yourself, and read Michael Crichton's "State of Fear." An exc. novel on the global warming debate--can't recommend it enough! In sum, I just think it is all about white guilt, and Obama is using the env't movement to facilitate his political agenda--the re-distribution of wealth. He doesn't give a rip about the environment--get a clue!

  • J-michael · 3 months ago

    You said:



    Beck left out companies like PG&E and Google because they had less to do with his point than those he did mention. Why are you re-directing to those he left out instead of addressing those he mentioned? Stick to the point. Stick to the subject.





    You say: "Beck credits the Apollo Alliance for helping design the economic stimulus package."



    And you respond with: "The Economic Recovery Act had many influences."



    Is that your way of acknowledging what Becksaid is accurate? Would it have been much simpler to say: Guilty..



    And BTW: How did the Apollo Alliance grab so much governmental influence that they can simply "recommend" items for a Bill and have "most of them adopted "??

  • J-michael · 3 months ago

    NICK SAYS:

    Absolute nonsense coming from FoxNews as usual, sadly, the uninformed, the gullible, and the right wing fools on this country will believe every word coming from this d-bag.





    and WE say: That's exactly what we expected you'd say....



    Broken record much??

  • Anonymous · 3 months ago

    Obama is our first Manchurian President!!!

  • Anonymous · 3 months ago

    When are all of the Hippies going to wake up and grow up????

    Pass the Bong, MAN!!!!

  • Jackie Yates · 3 months ago

    Would the reputable business that is involved in the Apollo Alliance-PG&E-have any relationship to Erin Brockovitch?

  • Ric Joyner · 3 months ago

    Glenn Beck did not attack green jobs! He spoke about "where Van Jones" came from and his communist leanings.



    For you to twist what he spoke about is misleading.

  • Anonymous · 3 months ago

    For the love of god, people...



    http://www.eastbayexpress.com/gyrobase/the_new_face_of_environmentalism/Content?oid=290098&showFullText=true



    Educate yourselves. Please. THIS is the interview in which Van Jones states he was a communist, after he was illegally imprisoned during a peaceful protest against the Rodney King verdict. He was not convicted of any crime, and has no criminal record. In it, he continues to explain how he overcame his radical ideals and realized capitalism can help him achieve his goals of social change (which, believe it or not, is a legitimate concern for some people who have more pressing issues than "HUR DUR I WANNA DRIVE MAH SUV").



    Now... I wonder how so many anti-liberal Glenn Beck zombies found their was onto this liberal blog without direction from an outside source? Do you all usually surf the liberal blogs?

  • j.a.m. · 3 months ago

    The idea that "a coalition between [sic--why are moonb@ts illiterate?] green groups, labor and social justice organizations" is going to "transition" anybody's economy is simply laughable and indeed derision-worthy. In a free society, thanks be to Zeus, political pressure groups have nothing to do with "transitioning" the economy.



    You deliberately distort Beck's comments. He explicitly disavows the word conspiracy, saying it's all out in the open, though under-reported. And he explicitly acknowledges that there are some legitimate entities mixed up in this, not just extremists.



    Tellingly, you don't rebut anything of substance that he says.



    I commend Beck for alerting taxpayers to this grotesque misuse of their hard-earned money. Sunshine is the best disinfectant. Shame on the mainstream media for overlooking it.

  • Tom · 3 months ago

    Talk about a chop job.



    They must have used Adobe Photoshop to crop that much out of the Beck segment with Apollo Alliance and van Jones. The segment also had pretty much NOTHING to do with green jobs or enviromental policies ..... pretty much like van Jones having nothign to do with green jobs or enviromental policies.



    it had a lot more to do with Van Jones, quoting a lot of his own political ideals, his love of communism, his current avowment that he is a communist, his little boy crush on Hugo Chavez and how much Van hates Privately run companies who get in the way of communist.



    The guy is unamerican trash. and I agree with this article in one way, news liek this is dangerous for the uninformed.



    First, when are we goign to stop usign the term "green". it means nothing. it is misleading and vague in design and use. Liars and Politicians (aka bigger liars) use it to get weak minded people to follow people like Van Jones, who has little to no credential in this role, other than he wants to squeeze influence out of other industries and into his .... not enough to matter, just enough to get his cut, which he has proven in his past performance when he caves and loses his "beliefs" everytime an envelope is being passed under the table.



    research this guy .... research this organization ... this article did not.

  • cosmo · 3 months ago

    Some of the czars ( like Van Jones who is an admitted communist) are marxist plain and simple. These people are actually advising the president who himself admitted in his book that he gravitated towards the Marxist proffessors. His mentors were all Marxist. His parents were Marxists. BHO is hardly a capitalist as a result.



    Beck and his ilk have every right to be concerned for where BHO wants to take this country. If you're not a Marxist/Socialist/Fascist/Communist you should be very concerned too.

  • curious · 3 months ago

    "Jones is a villain because he advocates for clean energy jobs that put people back to work. "



    That's not what I concluded from the program. What I concluded is that Jones is a villain because of his radical past involvements and his self proclaimed communist views. Everything you stated in your blog is the truth as far as the Apollo Alliance, but you neglected to even barely touch the entire point of the program. Please challenge the statements of Van Jones's radical past and radical views by declaring them false supported by evidence. I need to not believe what can be confirmed--it should be easy to do, yet no one is doing it.

  • edward · 3 months ago

    How do you explain WEATHER UNDERGROUND TERRORISTS being part of this "great organization"??

  • Steve G · 3 months ago

    If you want the green movement to skyrocket then get the Gov. and the social justice radicals out and let the free market in. Why does free energy cost so much? Because the Federal and State Gov. have been subsidizing green technology, the Gov. has artificially made prices lower by subsidizing with our tax dollars behavior they think is appropriate, not only is this bad use of tax dollars this has allowed prices to stay high. ( why be innovative when the Gov. gives people money to buy your product )Take away the tax breaks and Gov. subsidies and you will see real competition and innovation in the green economy and prices will fall, once you can put solar panels on your roof and recoup the cost in 3-5 years not the 10 to 15 years it is now, solar and other technology will explode when it becomes economically viable. why does recycled denim insulation cost more than new fiberglass insulation that does not make any sense. If your true goal is to see more renewable energy than this should be your focus. if you want broad support of the green movement than you must remove the social justice and other radicals, if you want broad support from all people than the extremist must be put out to pasture. and reasonable people must lead the charge for your cause.

  • Anonymous · 3 months ago

    @will



    Yes will - I am sure about that. I read far more scientific journals then you could possibly imagine. I, unlike you, just know an agenda based article when I see one. And BTW, you did not respond to my point of solar and magnetic influence on our weather. That's because that is where the answers are..... and these answers do not mesh with the AGENDA OF THE LEFT.



    Grow up for Pete's Sake.

  • Steve · 3 months ago

    Hey where can I find a copy of that paper that the Apollo Alliance put out in 2008 that had suggestions for the Economic Recovery Act, many of which made their way into the package? I would like to compare what was suggested by the Apollo Project and what actually was funded by Congress.

  • Chad S. Cool · 3 months ago

    All Glenn did was report the things that Van Jones said himself. It was Van Jones own words that got him in trouble. How is that a vicious smear campaign. If the things Van Jones said were so bad, perhaps he should have kept his mouth shut. Perhaps he should have chosen his associations wisely. Perhaps he shouldn't have admitted to being a Communist. Being a Communist, he has no business having the ear of our President.

  • Heather Ross · 3 months ago

    Did I just fall out of the crazy tree, because everyone should know that Van Jones is openly a Maoist and Communist. The "worker" talk is communism propaganda. Don't believe me? Who endorsed Anti-Police Day by Maoist communist cult group, Revolutionary Communist Party in 2006? Who is part of ISO, Int'l Socialist Org, San Francisco? Who endorses Van Jones? Code Pink, ANSWER, The Party for Socialism and Liberation, an SEIU, terrorist supporter attorney Lynne Stewart. Jones is a pro agitator. Yes, in the mix he gets 'good' done but that does not make him 'good' for America. He's Green for the World Union. To be able to join EU America would have to dismantle the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. Jones would love to dismantle white America, and if he told the truth he would say the same. Is the truth in him?

  • Anonymous · 3 months ago

    i think all you anti beck should open your eyes and look at the big picture of all these orgs and look at all these tactics the radicals are using. were heading down the path of distruction if we let all these radicals run our country into the ground. i think all these csars that obama has should be vetted!

  • rick · 3 months ago

    I hope the people that were reading this page in August can now see who Van Jones really is. Now you can see who was lying. I ,too, am in favor of developing green technology. Why didn't Obama put more of the stimulus bill money into this technology? Instead of pork. Why does he have to have socialists in charge of these programs? This is a sure way to end any green progress.

  • Matt C. · 3 months ago

    I stand with Beck.

    Fringe media reporting of half the facts could best be described as "YOU LIE" !

  • Manuela Ruiz · 3 months ago

    I thank Glen Beck for telling the truth, as much as it hurts to some people. He told me to hold to my money more that a year ago, I did and no money was lost in my accounts.

    I believe that this country is being destroyed from inside, as all the civilizations that are dead, have died that way: FROM THE INSIDE.

    USA will end that way unless the people revolt.

    That is........This is not the country I live in many years ago.

    Is being destroy...........Think about That

  • Manuela Ruiz · 3 months ago

    I thank Glen Beck for telling the truth, as much as it hurts to some people. He told me to hold to my money more that a year ago, I did and no money was lost in my accounts.

    I believe that this country is being destroyed from inside, as all the civilizations that are dead, have died that way: FROM THE INSIDE.

    USA will end that way unless the people revolt.

    That is........This is not the country I live in many years ago.

    Is being destroy...........Think about That

  • Anonymous · 3 months ago

    Beck was right on Van Jones. He was right on Acorn. And he is doing what a real investigative journalist should. Most of this Green stuff is a big scam. Several of my friends teach earth science and thankfully , they say most respectable science teachers are trying to undo the non scientific garbage put into kids heads by people like Soros. These teachers even show Gore's movie to point out scientific untruths. So at least the next generation coming up will have a clue. Of course, the corruption in the Fed will already have wasted huge money by then on a non existent problem.

  • Guest · 3 months ago

    If Glenn Beck is truly a Libertarian and has the popular support he believes he has, then why doesn't he put his multi-million $ wealth and (I presume) support of others to run for President in 2012 as a Libertarian Candidate.



    That way we will see just how well his rhetoric appeals to, and how much support he has in, mainstream America.



    Come on Glenn - put your money (which you obtain via your radical views expressed on your radio and TV shows) where your mouth is and let's see how popular your views really are in America.



    If you really believe your views are those of mainstream America then why not run as "Glenn Beck your Libertarian Candidate for President 2012." This will be a true test of how much the US believes in your policies.



    Get out from behind the safety of your radio and TV desks and let's see how popular your views really are to the American populous.



    Over to you Glenn!?!?!?

  • RICHARD L. BROWN · 3 months ago

    Should we destroy our economy for a green planet when China, India and others are spewing pollution!!

  • Dennis III · 3 months ago

    I would believe Fox news and Glenn Beck before I would believe Al Gore, Van Jones or even President Obama.



    This new government of mainly democrats almost defies descriptioin. Ayers, the Reverend Wright,

    Czars, left wing nuts all add up to a bad end for the average American citizen.



    When will people believe there is no free lunch.



    Kick out the illegals first and lets see what we really need.

  • Betty · 3 months ago

    Before I buy into the "my car is responsible for global warming" bit, I check out things like the History Channel program "That's Impossible" - "Weather Warfare" & US government programs like HAARP [High Frequency Auroral Research Project]. Interesting to contemplate what can happen to the atmosphere & jet stream when ELF waves are introduced into the ionosphere. Global warming may be man made but not necessarily attributable to those of us with vehicles.



    Reading Al Gore's 1992 book - "EARTH IN THE BALANCE: Ecology & the Human Spirit" was enough to scare the daylights out of me.

  • Curt S. · 3 months ago

    'Humans are the only species that refuse to save themselves because it isn't cost effective.' Kurt Vonnegut

  • gymlock · 3 months ago

    Forget Fox, Beck, Jones, Apollo Alliance, etc.



    Look at what Obama says:

    Mr. Obama barred officials of his administration from lobbying their former colleagues "for as long as I am president." He barred former lobbyists from working for agencies they had lobbied within the past two years and required them to recuse themselves from issues they had handled during that time.



    And look at what he does:

    Obama's nominee for deputy secretary of defense, William Lynn, has been a lobbyist for the defense contractor Raytheon, and his nominee for deputy secretary of health and human services, William V. Corr, lobbied for stricter tobacco regulations as an official with the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids.



    A senior White House official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, conceded the two nominees did not adhere to the new rules. But he said that Mr. Lynn had the support of Republicans and Democrats, and would receive a waiver under the policy, and that Mr. Corr did not need a waiver because he had agreed to recuse himself from tobacco issues.



    Listen to what he says:

    He told reporters at his transition office that his package will set a "new higher standard of accountability, transparency and oversight. We are going to ban all earmarks, the process by which individual members insert projects without review."



    And what he does:

    Administration officials - including Office of Management and Budget director Peter Orszag and White House chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel – called the spending bill needed to keep the federal government operating through September “last year’s business.” Only in Washington can a spending bill that requires the president’s signature today be yesterday’s business. Although the $410 billion bill contains nearly 8,600 earmarks Obama signed it anyway. Those who opposed it and called it pork, Orszag says, should just “move on.”







  • Chris K · 3 months ago

    "Beck, Jones is a villain because he advocates for clean energy jobs that put people back to work. "



    Liar, Liar, pants on fire.



    That's as intelligent and civil as the author.